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    How do you all play soldier so good.

    Ok so having less than an hour into the soldier before i decided to try to put some time into it last night forcing myself to play no other class and honestly other than blowing up sentries, i find them incompetent. There is almost always 1-2 soldiers in top 5 for points and one that has like 3+ dominations but with my experience im average at best and cannot score. How do you all play this class. One of the easiest classes to learn in the game supposedly and im struggling with it, while demoman i top the charts with. I shoot at the feat avoid close combat tried to close combat and the end resault was me with a negative kill to death ratio. Honestly what is the trick to this supposedly easy class i fail misserably with it.

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    Odd. I tried soldier for a long time last night too trying to get the hang of it. I suck at it too! I tried it for about six maps then got too frustrated with it and switched back to pyro.

    Guess we need to go to soldier boot camp.
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      #3
      LOL I have always sucked at soldier. For me it is a tossup between soldier, demo, and scout as to which I am the worst at. I am at least halfway decent at the other classes, but I am horrible at those three.
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        #4
        The key is to go for splash damage and to become good at compensating for your targets speed and your rockets slowness. I love playing Soldier, it's also the only class I have a hat for!

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          #5
          Soldier is just easy to play for me. Years and years of the Quake engine games has given me the 'feel' for proper physics and leading a target and using splash damage to wear them down.

          Its the easiest class to play for me, and its the first class I played when I started playing TF2 way back in the beta days.
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            #6
            Well... Things that did change my soldier play! Aim at the feet o_o. I always used to aim at people, but if you aim at the feet you will most certainly hit people. Don't shoot from too far away, rockets (as well as most projectiles) are easy to dodge that way =D
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              It reminds me of the panzer from Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory...

              It's all about the splash damage and learning to manage your load of rockets. Lead your target, try to anticipate where the target is going and toss a rocket there. You'll find that most people when dodging tend to go in a straight line or head directly for the nearest cover.

              Look for targets of opportunity such as groups of people clustered together, a path that everyone seems to take, a high vantage point overlooking a choke point.
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                #8
                Im starting to get get a hang of the soldier and it is one of the most average classes out there it is decent vs. every class and bad vs. none. I wish it was as fast as at least the demo though would be a advantage, but the only class i have problems killing with it are snipers but thats because they are so far away. With the soldier pyro's and heavy's are easy kills though so thats a nice change.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pumpkin_Jack View Post
                  Im starting to get get a hang of the soldier and it is one of the most average classes out there it is decent vs. every class and bad vs. none. I wish it was as fast as at least the demo though would be a advantage, but the only class i have problems killing with it are snipers but thats because they are so far away. With the soldier pyro's and heavy's are easy kills though so thats a nice change.
                  Yeah, the nice thing about soldiers is that they rip through those hard to kill classes like Heavy and Pyro like a hot knife in butter.

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                    #10
                    And let me tell you, as a heavy who often ends up without a medic, watching rockets come for you that you know you can't dodge sucks.

                    I miss dodge jumping and other twitch movements, regardless of class. I'm pretty good in UT2k4, and even in a game like BF2 which relies on a different style. I suck at TF2.

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                      Originally posted by Rand{CLR} View Post
                      I suck at TF2.

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                        #12
                        being a soldier is all about the splash damage. try to think were your enemy is gonna go and shoot the ground near him. don't try to hit him with cause unless they standing still you ain't gonna hit them.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by (DSP)-Bar View Post
                          being a soldier is all about the splash damage. try to think were your enemy is gonna go and shoot the ground near him. don't try to hit him with cause unless they standing still you ain't gonna hit them.
                          Not necessarily! Last night I jumped off a balcony, shot my rocket and right when I did, someone jumped in front of me and went up in gibs!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by TEAMKILLERZ View Post
                            Not necessarily! Last night I jumped off a balcony, shot my rocket and right when I did, someone jumped in front of me and went up in gibs!
                            I think that was me.
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                              #15
                              First time we hosted TF2, I played ALOT of Soldier. Even played Soldier in some ranked clan matches, which was fun.

                              Although this second time around, I really can't get into the class at all. Maybe because I'm liking other classes, or maybe I'm just that much older and dont have the good eyesight to properly aim those rockets.

                              In good hands, they are a great class. Ruthlesskiller comes to mind as one of the better Soldier players we have at Cain's Lair.

                              I used to do alot of stick and move with a soldier, shooting from a medium distance away and then ducking out of sight.
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