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Cain
2nd Jan 2008, 04:03 PM
I have built my own PCs and servers for 11 years now.

should I build my own again, or buy Dell ???

juneau
2nd Jan 2008, 04:05 PM
1 word.

Build!

That is all. :D

{CLR}geneSW
2nd Jan 2008, 04:50 PM
build...

Apache Warrior
2nd Jan 2008, 04:52 PM
Build Build Build............................................. .
Apache

Todd98
2nd Jan 2008, 04:54 PM
Cain me and you talked about me getting another computer so me and my daughter can play everyone at the same time and I looked into Dell and I can build one cheaper and if not better so please build you one and you will be much more happy with it. :2thumbs:

LIMEY
2nd Jan 2008, 04:56 PM
Dude!

as this was ambiguous let me add another word.....



BUILD

Todd98
2nd Jan 2008, 05:03 PM
Dude!


What?

Todd98
2nd Jan 2008, 05:07 PM
My bad :( I corrected the statement to sound better. I can't type how I feel. :(

mapes
2nd Jan 2008, 05:36 PM
If it was a desktop or full server case build. If it's a rack mountable server than buy. Dell and Supermicro do some decent pizza boxes.

BlackArrow
2nd Jan 2008, 06:20 PM
Cain,

I have done both. As you know I built my son's box with all the trimmings, quad core, dual 8800's, raptor drives. Fun - but lots of tweaking, the EVGA 680i mobo had all kinds of issues and actually right now a year later they are offering to swap those mobos (expensive top end boards) for the new 780i since there have been soooo many complaints.


I also own several Dells including my XPS 720 gaming rig. With a Dell factory overclocked quad core, dual 8800's and dual raptor drives in RAID.


Dell may cost more, but believe me, when my computer died a few months back they shipped me a brand new one. and my old one was almost two years old.


I am happy with both, depends on how much time and effort you want to put in and how much the extra dollars are going to hurt.

My two cents.

Ghost_Rain
2nd Jan 2008, 06:30 PM
Build you will save a hell of alot of Cash :D

TheSilentAssassin
2nd Jan 2008, 06:34 PM
No offense to anyone who owns a Dell, even though I have one, but Cain if you buy a Dell, I will jump out of your monitor and strangle you...JK

I do not like Dell, because unless you buy the really expensive XPS systems, you will have a problem upgrading the PSU because they use a proprietary system, which is a pain in the ass especially if your current PSU does not have enough power to support an new graphics card. I just lucky and found one that fit. If you are willing to spend more money for a Dell, then thats good, just be careful what you get. Make sure that the PSU will never need to be upgraded if you do go for a Dell.

ryanbatc
2nd Jan 2008, 07:54 PM
Build it...

8)

CheebaNinja
2nd Jan 2008, 09:14 PM
IMO time IS money so if i had extra time i would build but if i had the money i would buy.Pre OC'ed and no htermal grease all over the place. :D

SgtRock
2nd Jan 2008, 09:29 PM
If you build it....it will come.

BUILD!! :cheers:

Duke{CLR}
2nd Jan 2008, 11:18 PM
I would say BUILD. I also am in the position of having to purchase my Laptops for gaming and Dell has not done my wrong. Just stay from Alienware although bought out by Dell I still hear bad stories about their service and support.

-Bar
2nd Jan 2008, 11:54 PM
My current Pc is a Dell... next time I am building. All the crap I had to clean up... I had to sit on the phone for an hour and bitch at the Indians to send me my boot discs... while they told me it is on your hard drive. Yeah right and I have seen hard drives die left and right... they are cheap. The OS is not cheap.


I still have a free copy of win xp media center sitting on the shelf that dell gave me to shut me up. Saving it for when I do build a new pc. Damn was I pissed when I opened the box and didn't have my Boot discs. You are fine as long as you are in warranty but once out then you are screwed.

CHOPS123
3rd Jan 2008, 01:15 AM
Cain Build! If you need help Im not very far away from you. Dell = Hell in my book! Build and save lots of cash! If you need help PM me....Im in Gville

Duke{CLR}
3rd Jan 2008, 01:24 AM
Dells XPS support is supposed to be different and whenever I have had to talk to them I spoke to people in Toronto eh. :2thumbs:

imlittlev
3rd Jan 2008, 01:36 AM
buiiiild! it will be epic!

BenKenobi
3rd Jan 2008, 07:18 AM
http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/Almostwinkingc128438326833543750.jpg

Pain_Killer{CLR}
3rd Jan 2008, 07:29 AM
I have built my own PCs and servers for 11 years now.

should I build my own again, or buy Dell ???

You'll be sad buying a Dell.... BUILD is your best bet

Dead_And_Gone
3rd Jan 2008, 07:39 AM
BUILD

No question. :D

darth_nevus
3rd Jan 2008, 01:22 PM
Ok, i am going to err on this side.....

Disclaimer: No Offense is intented by this post. When i say YOU, its not directed at you personally, and doesn't reflect your character, but my experiences with dealing with folks of the age bracket, but at the age bracket in general, alot of folks follow what follows here. i don't know you well enough to pass judgement on YOUR character, and i won't.

Clarification: the 'YOU' statement is not specifically Cain or anyone else here, but people of this age in general. take it as it applies.

Your what? 50+ now? Logic dictates that the older you get, a few things happen. I asked my father in law these same questions when he asked me about building a pc.

1. You get more stubborn.

Translation to this topic: You want to build it, but you also expect, and DEMAND it works right, all the time, from day 1 until you "upgrade". PC's are plagued with issues.

Ask yourself this: Is it easier to just buy something that just works from day one? or worry about it?

2. You start getting lazy.

Translation to this topic: Closer to retirement, you start expecting things to get done for you, you deserve it now. you don't have the time to REALLY put into keeping it up and running, but also don't always feel the need to put the effort into it. you relate back to #1, and start wishing someone else would fix it.

Ask yourself this: Do you REALLY want to spend the time to fix it yourself or have someone else do it? Do you really want to spend the time to diagnose every little malfunction?

3. You start Losing time.

Translation to this topic: You in approaching your golden years are busy prepping for them. your getting a new job, and no longer have the time really to dedicate it, related to items #1 & #2 we do as the younger generation does. You will need the pc to be working, when you need it. For business purposes especially.

Ask yourself this: Do you really have time to fix a problem when it arises? can you afford to wait until you can fix it? or would it be better for someone else to?

4. You start getting ornery.

Translation to this topic: You want it fixed, and working, but because of the first 3 items, it has to be done asap. no time to do it, it already should be fine, and why the heck hasn't someone else already fixed it!

Ask yourself this: How upset is it going to make you if it takes a few weeks to get the PC back up to par?

5. Your interests start moving elsewhere.

Translation to this topic: Pc's are getting more and more complicated. You also have a new job coming, one requiring more of your time. The time to do the research to fix a problem, keep the upkeep on a PC, troubleshoot the darn thing, etc, is really different than it has been, and will continue to get more so over time.

Ask yourself this: Are you really willing to keep up on all the technical stuff about the new pc? Or would it be easier since the previous questions to let someone else do it?

6. You start to have less money.

Translation to topic: with your new business coming, retirement coming(even if it is a good bit a away yet), etc, you are starting to spend your money more wisely, and don't usually have lots floating around. Pc's break. new parts cost money, and are not always available.

Ask yourself this: Would you rather be the one coughing up the extra dough now while you have it for a prebuilt rig and having a them replace broken stuff, or would you save $$ now, but chance having to cough it up later, IF the parts are available?


Let me get this out of the way. I HATE Dell. I hate them with a passion. However, my opinion is biased. Alot of folks(BA is a good example) have had great dealings with them. One good thing they have going for them is the support. if you need something, its a phone call away. if all else fails, THEY REPLACE THE PC. usually at little or no cost. Dell has their place in the market its not mine.

Me personally, i stay buried deep into the tech market. i read everything i can get my hands on. i have the time, the will, the effort etc, needed to put into maintaining my PC. i have money i set aside for "uhoh, it broke" cases. i am still young and naive enough for this to not bother me. i don't have your extra years experience in dealing with life. when i hit your age, if i live that long, chances are i will look back at everything, and see where things might not have been so smart.

So it all comes down to this. Pre-Built or Build up.

Considering the life changes your going through, the extra buck for a dell might not be a bad idea. but if you love building a rig, love the intricacies and the problems associated with it, then Build one.

Nothing is more enjoyable to me than bring a bunch of parts to life in a nice complete package suited for me, based off what i want it to be. Anyone ever seen the move "Robots"? Johnny Copperbottom.

Everyone here can Lynch me, but i'd say go for a Dell or a nice prebuilt pc to suit your needs.

imlittlev
3rd Jan 2008, 01:30 PM
^ yes but its normally built well, and few parts need replacing....the only parts i've truly "needed" to replace was the MAXTOR OF DOOM. and an underpowered PSU (350 watts, kthx bye).

and with all the technologically advanced comrades at CainsLair, there is no fail!

you do like to build, dont you?
*edit*
ARGH TINY TEXT DOESNT WORK!?

-Bar
3rd Jan 2008, 01:53 PM
Everyone here can Lynch me, but i'd say go for a Dell or a nice prebuilt pc to suit your needs.

My dell was/is a nice machine, it is out-dated but it did what I wanted at the time and still does some of the things I want.... You just gotta take into the account of the things that you gotta do with a pre-built. I am picky about having my boot discs... but if you don't care then it isn't a problem. Cleaning them up can be a pain but an hour of cleaning compared to a day of installing and assembly. Plus you gotta make sure you take off anti-virus software they come with. All the anti-virus stuff I have used would take off the existing for you. When I put mcafee on it couldn't remove the norton crap that came with it and I was 1 step from a reformat cause they were eating up my machine for some reason. Then some magic with ctrl - F11, I forget what it did again but I have always remembered it.

BigTwinky
3rd Jan 2008, 02:29 PM
I hear what people are saying about Dell. I have had nothing but good experiences with Dell, 3 PCs and 1 laptop in the family. Yes, they are more expensive. Yes, you can save money building it. To the point someone made about upgradability... when I buy a PC, I usually don't keep up to date with everything in the tech market, so I rarely upgrade things other than the vid card and ram. I might be missing out, but hey, I spend my time doing other things.

If you want to save money building it yourself but don't want to do the manual labour, look into a local company that builds PCs.

A tech guy here at work, who has been working with PCs for over 25 years and has built way too many to remember, recommended a place that uses name brand parts and charges you $50 to build the thing + 1 year warranty. Their website allows you to put together various types of PCs, so you have flexibility, and the techs review your setup to ensure everything fits.

Might be a viable alternative, depending on what you are looking for

darth_nevus
3rd Jan 2008, 03:00 PM
A tech guy here at work, who has been working with PCs for over 25 years and has built way too many to remember, recommended a place that uses name brand parts and charges you $50 to build the thing + 1 year warranty. Their website allows you to put together various types of PCs, so you have flexibility, and the techs review your setup to ensure everything fits.


Truth be told, i am working on this EXACT thing now. lol.

WalkinTarget
3rd Jan 2008, 03:19 PM
Buy an HP ..... ohhh, here's one that might work out OK for you:

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=503

:2thumbs:

Made by the gang formerly known as Voodoo PC .. its a very nice rig.

BigTwinky
3rd Jan 2008, 03:30 PM
A tech guy here at work, who has been working with PCs for over 25 years and has built way too many to remember, recommended a place that uses name brand parts and charges you $50 to build the thing + 1 year warranty. Their website allows you to put together various types of PCs, so you have flexibility, and the techs review your setup to ensure everything fits.


Truth be told, i am working on this EXACT thing now. lol.

On starting up your own place to build PCs or shopping for a PC place to have your stuff built at?

darth_nevus
3rd Jan 2008, 03:31 PM
Buy an HP ..... ohhh, here's one that might work out OK for you:

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=503

:2thumbs:

Made by the gang formerly known as Voodoo PC .. its a very nice rig.

hahaha, at only the GNP of some small 3rd world counties. i hadn't seen the 002 model of this yet, but its still old tech. 680i? only duial core options?

pigworthy
3rd Jan 2008, 04:35 PM
I think it comes down to what is more valuable to you.

Your Time? Buy a Dell.

Your Money? Build one yourself then.

I usually can save about $1000 for a pretty highend system building it myself. That is worth my time for me. If it was only $300-$500, I'd probably order it and not have the hassle.

TheSilentAssassin
3rd Jan 2008, 04:36 PM
Cain, if you did buy a Dell, what would you buy? Specs?

WalkinTarget
3rd Jan 2008, 07:41 PM
Well, if you build .. here's the video card to go with:

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQzOSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

Nvidia 9800 GX2 ... two 9800 Nvidia cards on one PCIe interface !! :shock: :shock: :shock:

imlittlev
3rd Jan 2008, 07:44 PM
i bet thats a power hog?

Devilguns
3rd Jan 2008, 09:37 PM
Nvidia has the crappiest looking coolers. I'm not asking for much. Give me translucent blue plastic with a fan that lights up.

darth_nevus
4th Jan 2008, 12:49 PM
A tech guy here at work, who has been working with PCs for over 25 years and has built way too many to remember, recommended a place that uses name brand parts and charges you $50 to build the thing + 1 year warranty. Their website allows you to put together various types of PCs, so you have flexibility, and the techs review your setup to ensure everything fits.


Truth be told, i am working on this EXACT thing now. lol.

On starting up your own place to build PCs or shopping for a PC place to have your stuff built at?

More of starting with a PC components configurer(free of course), and possibly down the line actually building the systems themselves.

One thing that's always irked me is the lack of component compatable things out out there. you buy a mobo, but are not sure if it'll work with certain parts. ram is particularly testy, and for the novice, or new to building user, it could come in handy.