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    Interesting Article on American Educational Desires

    From Yesterday's New York Times. I'm not going to post the whole article since it's registration based and may cause problems, but I'll put up a few telling quotes:

    February 14, 2008
    Dumb and Dumber: Are Americans Hostile to Knowledge?
    By PATRICIA COHEN

    A popular video on YouTube shows Kellie Pickler, the adorable platinum blonde from ?American Idol,? appearing on the Fox game show ?Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?? during celebrity week. Selected from a third-grade geography curriculum, the $25,000 question asked: ?Budapest is the capital of what European country??

    Ms. Pickler threw up both hands and looked at the large blackboard perplexed. ?I thought Europe was a country,? she said. Playing it safe, she chose to copy the answer offered by one of the genuine fifth graders: Hungary. ?Hungry?? she said, eyes widening in disbelief. ?That?s a country? I?ve heard of Turkey. But Hungry? I?ve never heard of it.?
    ......

    Not only are citizens ignorant about essential scientific, civic and cultural knowledge, she said, but they also don?t think it matters.

    She pointed to a 2006 National Geographic poll that found nearly half of 18- to 24-year-olds don?t think it is necessary or important to know where countries in the news are located. So more than three years into the Iraq war, only 23 percent of those with some college could locate Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Israel on a map.
    ....

    Ms. Jacoby....The author of seven other books, she was a fellow at the library when she first got the idea for this book back in 2001, on 9/11.

    Walking home to her Upper East Side apartment, she said, overwhelmed and confused, she stopped at a bar. As she sipped her bloody mary, she quietly listened to two men, neatly dressed in suits. For a second she thought they were going to compare that day?s horrifying attack to the Japanese bombing in 1941 that blew America into World War II:

    ?This is just like Pearl Harbor,? one of the men said.

    The other asked, ?What is Pearl Harbor??

    ?That was when the Vietnamese dropped bombs in a harbor, and it started the Vietnam War,? the first man replied.

    At that moment, Ms. Jacoby said, ?I decided to write this book.?
    ....

    And a controversial one for you:

    Ms. Jacoby also blames religious fundamentalism?s antipathy toward science, as she grieves over surveys that show that nearly two-thirds of Americans want creationism to be taught along with evolution.
    -Rand
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    #2
    Nice post.

    Very interesting.

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      #3
      This is what happens when you dumb everything down so that everyone is capable of earning a degree.

      This is also why a degree doesn't mean **** anymore.
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        #4
        I am glad that I am in the 23% of people that can spot the damn places on the map.

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          #5
          Originally posted by (DSP)-Bar
          I am glad that I am in the 23% of people that can spot the damn places on the map.
          +1

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            #6
            Hard to leave a child behind when the vehicle isn't moving isn't it?

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              #7
              Originally posted by unorignal
              Hard to leave a child behind when the vehicle isn't moving isn't it?
              I love it, i'm going to use it in my sig.
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                #8
                I run into this to a lesser degree in the workplace very often.

                To typify the problem, the common offender is someone with a golden ticket (degree from a top 25 institution) who will throw their weight around while disguising the issue at hand with thick vocabulary.

                If you havent noticed, I am very well educated and I took my education seriously (after 6 years of post highschool beer, chicks and etc.- but 3.0 or better when I went to college)

                I went to a respected private college out here where 50% of my business profs were also profs at Stanford University- so we got our arses kicked academically.

                The funny part is that I am unassuming and the degree hides my knowledge. When you pin someone in the corner intellectually and press them on what the hell they are trying to tell you- quite often you get something dumber than a drive through attendant.

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                  #9
                  you can't expect too much from a singer...

                  Also, what's wrong with teaching creationism in schools?
                  I just want to hear the argument... nothing to one way or another...

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