Cain needs a new PC January 2008 Edition

[Cain]

Back to my CPU...

Let's chat about 45nm and 1600 FSb speeds...

[Ghost_Rain]

I thought about the new Intel Cpu but I could not justify the Cost so I went with Core2Quad Q6000 2.40mhz and I'm well happpy with it.

[Cain]

which new CPU ??

[juneau]

Back to my CPU...

Let's chat about 45nm and 1600 FSb speeds...

There is no actual concrete reviews out for the new chips as of yet. So performance increases from the current selection isn't known.

[WalkinTarget]

Here's a good read on the basics of the 45nm CPUs, and what to expect:

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3184


http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=101960


Dual Core
---E8500 - 3.16Ghz - 9.5 multiplier - 333 Base system clock - 6MB cache - $266 - Jan 08
---E8400 - 3.00Ghz - 9.0 multiplier - 333 Base system clock - 6MB cache - $183 - Jan 08
---E8300 - 2.83Ghz - 8.5 multiplier - 333 Base system clock - 6MB cache - $### - Jan 08
---E8200 - 2.66Ghz - 8.0 multiplier - 333 Base system clock - 6MB cache - $163 - Jan 08

Quad Core
QX9650 - 3.00Ghz -unlockedmulti - 333 Base system clock - 12MB cache - $999 - Nov 11
---Q9550 - 2.83Ghz - 8.5 multiplier - 333 Base system clock - 12MB cache - $530 - Jan 08
---Q9450 - 2.66Ghz - 8.0 multiplier - 333 Base system clock - 12MB cache - $316 - Jan 08
---Q9330 - 2.50Ghz - 7.5 multiplier - 333 Base system clock --- 6MB cache - $266 - Jan 08

There's your Intel CPU releases for this month, with the 45mn 'Yorkfield' chips being delayed until late February. The Yorkfield, unfortunately, is the chip that I linked in the beginning of this thread, so I edited it and added the rest of the info for Cain and others to read to get an idea of what is coming in the near future. Now if Nvidia would be releasing a newer G94 chip instead of the mid range cards they plan on releasing in Feb/March ...

[Cain]

[WalkinTarget]

That Q9450 looks might appealing for only $316 !! I still don't believe a quad core is in ANY way justified (its about as worthwhile as DX10, which is a dead on arrival bust so far) so I will not be buying until late Spring, as I can only point to two games off the top of my head which will work better with a quad.

The thing to keep in mind with the Penryn launch is that this is not the big jump in Intel's performance roadmap .. the Nehalem is the one that will be a much larger jump, but that isn't to be released until (at the earliest) the end of 2008.

So where do we go from here ? If you are planning on buying a 45nm chip, make DARN sure your board will support it. Almost all 680i boards do, and a good many of the 650i boards are currently certified for the Penryn chips. My MSO P6N Platinum is already tested and certified for the chip, but do your research on what your board will support.

[GoatX12]

For the most part a Quad core and a dual core are equal when it comes to gaming (However the old SMP from Quake 3 may still be used in COD4) Where Quad core's come into play is Master and Compressing movies, Extracting and Unextracting files just to name a few, the price difference between a dual & quad is so insignificant that it make it worth while, and any game that comes out optimized to work better on Dual cores WILL see a benefit from a Quad.

[Cain]

---E8500 - 3.16Ghz - 9.5 multiplier - 333 Base system clock - 6MB cache - $266 - Jan 08

Does Newegg have this sucker yet?? What is the source of your info, and dates?

OK this one looks tasty.. Which MB for it ??

My system has become so unstable I'm gonna need to do this sooner, rather than later.

[Cain]

I'm reading this page now .........

http://forums.tweaktown.com/showthread.php?t=25544

[WalkinTarget]

Crap, I must have missed adding the link to the post offering up details on the Intel chips ... sorry ...

Here it is for all its worth:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=101960

Still no sign of one on the open market, but I guess we have to wait a week. It looks like the X35-X38 will be knocked from the head of the board class in a hurry with the 780 boards soon to arrive (even if they do have issues at launch). Geez, boards are hot one month and discontinued the next lately !

[WalkinTarget]

Cain, keep in mind you are going to be needing DDR3 RAM if you choose one of the new boards, and it is GODAWFUL expensive !!!

Here's the cheap stuff:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231149

4x the price of DDR2-800 RAM at this point .... but at least it has nowhere to go but down.

[Cain]

The new boards ONLY do DDR3 ??

[juneau]

The new boards ONLY do DDR3 ??

Some do 2 and 3 and will also take the new chips. 3 is not worth the extra cash though to be honest. And i don't think you should wait around for the new chips as the improvements are not going to be that great. Unless of course you wait for Nehalem which is months away. That'll be the next big step.

[WalkinTarget]

Depends on what you consider new .. if its the 780 series .. yes.

If its the X38 or X35 .. welllll ..... thats a crapshoot, as there are oddities thrown into the mix such as this MSI board:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130128

DDR2 and DDR3 ?? And its NOT an Asrock ??!!??!! Its a weird time to be building a rig, as we have no idea how the current boards will stack up when paired with a Penryn CPU.

I wouldn't go for a $300 board, but honestly, I do like the very MSI board that I linked. I know it won't be the performance king, but its darn near the top when you factor in what you pay for it !