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**goldenfooler** · 5 Oct 2013, 09:44 AM

Ram should be easy 16 GB

**Cain** · 5 Oct 2013, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by goldenfooler View Post

Ram should be easy 16 GB

Yep, just not sure which brand/model to get yet - or speed.

**K PhaNTOM** · 5 Oct 2013, 09:53 AM

What I have, and recommend.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820233143

**Cain** · 5 Oct 2013, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by K PhaNTOM View Post

What I have, and recommend.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820233143

Thx KP!! Why 4x4 rather than 8x2??

**K PhaNTOM** · 5 Oct 2013, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by Cain View Post

Thx KP!! Why 4x4 rather than 8x2??

Would you rather have 2 men building a house or 4? 4 hands compared to 8. Same with your clock speeds. I'd rather have 4x1600mhz than 2x1600mhz. Split the work between them.

And they look much better than having 2 empty slots. Most motherboards have 4 DIMMs.

**BlackJack!** · 5 Oct 2013, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by K PhaNTOM View Post

Would you rather have 2 men building a house or 4? 4 hands compared to 8. Same with your clock speeds. I'd rather have 4x1600mhz than 2x1600mhz. Split the work between them.

And they look much better than having 2 empty slots. Most motherboards have 4 DIMMs.

Fewer modules with higher capacity is almost always preferable. Besides the fact that it leaves you room for future upgrades if necessary, 4 sticks puts more strain on the memory controller and chipset. It would also actually take longer for the CPU to add and retrieve data from 4 sticks than 2 (though the difference is negligible)

I read this explanation from a user named garycase at "The Hyphenated Site" a while back when researching my PC:

Originally posted by garycase

Most desktop systems use unbuffered RAM modules -- this results in very large loads on the address and data buses when you have more than two modules installed, and can significantly degrade the signalling on these buses. The memory subsystem "sees' one load per memory chip -- so with two modules installed, that's up to 32 loads (with double-sided modules) ... and with four modules installed that's as many as 64 electrical loads on the bus. Some systems automatically adjust for this higher load by either increasing the voltage a small amount; reducing the clock frequency of the memory (thus slightly slowing it down); or by adding a cycle to the SPD's latency setting (again, slightly slowing it down). These adjustments help keep the memory subsystem reliable -- but mean that 4 x 1 GB modules would be slightly slower than 2 x 2 GB modules on these systems. But regardless of whether there's any timing differences, the memory will definitely be more reliable with only two modules.

I'd go with fewer, larger sticks if the price is comparable.

**Cain** · 5 Oct 2013, 12:26 PM

Thanks Blackjack, my rationale was leaving two slots open for future upgrades. It is interesting to note that this also has performance benefits as well.

**trip202** · 5 Oct 2013, 12:45 PM

Cain, before you go spending your hard earned money, I have a pretty decent rig for sale. I can offer a very fair price. See below.

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**Tuqui-tuqui** · 5 Oct 2013, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by trip202 View Post

Cain, before you go spending your hard earned money, I have a pretty decent rig for sale. I can offer a very fair price. See below.

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That's what Im currently playing BF4 beta in. It's a little sluggish but hopefully the release client will be more stable. 10/10 would get scammed again.

**Apache Warrior** · 5 Oct 2013, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by K PhaNTOM View Post

Would you rather have 2 men building a house or 4? 4 hands compared to 8. Same with your clock speeds. I'd rather have 4x1600mhz than 2x1600mhz. Split the work between them.

And they look much better than having 2 empty slots. Most motherboards have 4 DIMMs.

Mathematically this formula is not always true.
Using your example: If one man can build a house in 30 days, then 30 men should be able to build a house in one day.

Apache

**Apache Warrior** · 5 Oct 2013, 02:33 PM

Cain you should enjoy the Maximus VI. I have had the Maximus IV Extreme Z for two years and it has been a great MB.
Apache

**trip202** · 5 Oct 2013, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by Tuqui-tuqui View Post

That's what Im currently playing BF4 beta in. It's a little sluggish but hopefully the release client will be more stable. 10/10 would get scammed again.

Who need a mouse, right?

**K PhaNTOM** · 5 Oct 2013, 04:21 PM

Huh... did not know that. I don't think you're going to upgrade from 16GBs of RAM to 32. Unless you plan on editing and rendering a 3D feature movie.

**Cain** · 5 Oct 2013, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by K PhaNTOM View Post

Huh... did not know that. I don't think you're going to upgrade from 16GBs of RAM to 32. Unless you plan on editing and rendering a 3D feature movie.

In 5 years, who knows??????

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