Sarari...

[baller4life2468]

For Windows?
For any of you MAC users you know Safari all too well. :]
But I just updated iTunes and it gave me a free download of Safari for Windows.
It looks just like safari for a mac.

They claim it is the fastest of all browsers.
I just wanted to know if anyone has tried it for Windows and if they notice any big difference.

Baller

[Trooper110]

It's crap for a Mac, which leads me to believe that it's even crappier for Windows. Stick with Firefox.

[baller4life2468]

Firefox ftw!

[paceman]

Safari was defeated in a "Pwn to Own" contest. Safari was cracked in about 2 mins.

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/27/p...-minutes-flat/

[CarbonFire]

Give me Firefox, or give me death!

I've been using Firefox since it was known as Pheonix, and I haven't looked back since. The overall standards compliance, the customization, the extensions....nothing else can touch it. If I were on the Mac, maybe I'd consider using Safari (given how unoptimized Firefox 2 is for that platform). But for Windows, Firefox is my window to the Net.

[Hammy]

My father put a Mac in his house for my step mother.
He runs Parallel on it so that when he is forced to use the machine, he can just do his thing in Windows.

I was over there two weeks ago (maybe less?) and I was messing around with Safari.

The only thing that is different is the way that it publishes content to the pages. Also, you'd be surprised about how some of your favorite websites look in Macintosh land. They are just different, I cant really explain it.

It's not dramatic, but there are little things like border changes, or graphic changes, and etc.

Other than that- I dont think 1 millisecond is an achievement if that is what you are getting when you are quoting speed. It's at the point of diminished return on investment now.

[Thrashdragon]

I use it on a Mac at work (using it right now actually) and it's useable and seems to run a little quicker than Firefox. At home on a PC though, Firefox all the way.

[Trooper110]

Mac's have code that forces any browser but Safari to run sub-omtimally. Can't remember exacty where I found the article, but they did testing and acutally found the code that did it. Not saying tha Mac is all evil, MS is just as bad, but at least MS isn't throttling internet browsing with browsers other than IE....although I'd guess that's probably due more to people watching them more carefully.

[CarbonFire]

Mac's have code that forces any browser but Safari to run sub-omtimally. Can't remember exacty where I found the article, but they did testing and acutally found the code that did it. Not saying tha Mac is all evil, MS is just as bad, but at least MS isn't throttling internet browsing with browsers other than IE....although I'd guess that's probably due more to people watching them more carefully.

That sounds like Total FUD. I know that Camino (Firefox's mac-only gecko cousin) was faster than Safari on the mac for years. I think Opera might be fastest now, but really, who uses the red-headed step-child of the browser world anyway? Link to that article Troop, or it's just FUD.

They're all good browsers now (except IE7 of course ), just choose the one that does what you need it to do.

[Hammy]

That sounds like Total FUD. I know that Camino (Firefox's mac-only gecko cousin) was faster than Safari on the mac for years. I think Opera might be fastest now, but really, who uses the red-headed step-child of the browser world anyway? Link to that article Troop, or it's just FUD.

They're all good browsers now (except IE7 of course ), just choose the one that does what you need it to do.

+1

[Trooper110]

Ok...questionable practices with API's so that other web browser developers have to reverse engineer some Apple code to get the same performance. Straight from the Firefox team.

http://blog.vlad1.com/2008/02/28/fin...-turbo-button/
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl.../02/28/2339246

[CarbonFire]

Ok...questionable practices with API's so that other web browser developers have to reverse engineer some Apple code to get the same performance. Straight from the Firefox team.

http://blog.vlad1.com/2008/02/28/fin...-turbo-button/
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl.../02/28/2339246

Hmmmm....

Edit: Slashdot seems to have picked up on this, and in typical style, has completely misunderstood the post. To be clear, I do not think that Apple is in any way trying to purposely "cripple" non-Apple software. I also do not think that undocumented APIs give Safari any kind of "significant performance advantage" (as Firefox 3 should show!). However, as I said, the undocumented functionality could be useful for Firefox and other apps to implement things in an simpler (and potentially more efficient) manner. I don't think this is malicious, it's just an unfortunate cutting of corners that is way too easy for a company that's not fully open to do.

Seems far more like an oversight than anything overtly malicious. Not saying Apple has never done anything like that, but in this instance, it just doesn't seem to be the case.

[Trooper110]

And yet if this were MS and someone had discovered something like that then everyone would be up in arms. It may be an oversight on Apple's part, but that's kind of a big oversight when the majority of people today use the computer for some kind of internet functionality.

[mapes]

No more of an oversight than active x is. I actually use Iceweasel on my Linux box.....It's the same thing as Firefox but the folks at Debian didn't like that the Firefox name and icons were copywrited