Mini map enhanced

[Bon3z]

Deathmatch? How so? I liked HC servers because of the lack of a killcam, no crosshairs, and more realistic damage- i.e. 1-3 bullets to put down an enemy.
Deathmatch to me seems like a more frenzied free-for-all fragfest instead of calculated strategies found in HC Conquest. Just IMO.

edit: But I think Cain mentioned having one vanilla and one HC BF3 server. So one of each.

edit 2: And for the record, I don't like the spotting system and radar. It's unrealistic to me and I get found much more easily.

I just really liked the spotting and the radar with my beloved motion detectors. My favorite BC2 kit is recon with a shotgun.

And I am no fan of the snipers that just camp out, so I liked the kill cam. Coming from a UT background, I guess the lack of realism just doesn't bother me.

With regards to deathmatch, I started to find HC consisted of a lot of people just camping (on both sides) and killing those actually trying to complete the objectives. On non-HC servers, the more snipers = more likely to loose. I liked that.

[S-Man]

This is true. It would be really irritating being in a server where all the bases were surrounded by snipers and you couldn't move without being nailed.
I think this will not be so easy in BF3 because the scope glint makes it pretty easy to find people using scopes now. I guess we'll see.

[Dead...Again]

Yes, Cain is planning on a Vanilla server. I and many other regulars--those who played BF2--are likely to spend much of our time there.

-Rand

That's where I'll be.

[Brian is Huh?!{CLR}]

This is true. It would be really irritating being in a server where all the bases were surrounded by snipers and you couldn't move without being nailed.
I think this will not be so easy in BF3 because the scope glint makes it pretty easy to find people using scopes now. I guess we'll see.

true that.. but in a conquest server... it'll still be hard...

[goldenfooler]

true that.. but in a conquest server... it'll still be hard...

Plus now you have mortars ... wahoo I am going to be over using those things.

[S-Man]

Yeah mortars look like they'll be a lot of fun. Who will be carrying mortars? Support or Recon?

[goldenfooler]

support

[S-Man]

Man that will be wicked fun to have a squad of support guys raining mortars down. Especially with TS available we can call in mortars vocally. That will be awesome.

[Smoking]

the mini map was so horrible during beta, more so on Caspian so i didn't even look at it half the time, the only time i did look at it was playing Metro.

And as for support having mortar's that's kinda scary to think about a guy camping in the hills with his mortar having unlimited ammo, i can already see it now and it makes my skin shiver

[farebane]

You should look at your minimaps more often. You have no idea how many people just mind their own business even though the guy that killed me is spotted and 3 feet away going for a knife. It can save you.

This. But also, I use it to see if I'm being flanked. If those little teammate arrows that were over in the other tunnel/otherside of building/etc. are start blipping out, or are gone, yeah time to investigate. Carefully.

[ryanbatc]

You should look at your minimaps more often. You have no idea how many people just mind their own business even though the guy that killed me is spotted and 3 feet away going for a knife. It can save you.

+1,000,000

I always use the MM in BF2. Then again I always spot enemies.