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    #16
    Play recon as a infantry one running and sniping at the same time ( Sv98 + red dot win ), I mean a recon the one who run through all base and sneak lol

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      #17
      Originally posted by 3xFaster View Post
      Play recon as a infantry one running and sniping at the same time ( Sv98 + red dot win ), I mean a recon the one who run through all base and sneak lol
      Yeah that is really deadly. I have yet to even use the Recon class, but it seems the ones who are the most successful can use a sniper with a red dot.

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        #18
        One of the things I'm realizing about this game is that it's going to be one of whoring. Everyone always complains about sniper whores, regardless of game. In the Battlefield games, people have always complained about the amor whores (cough *wussies* cough) and jet/helo whores.

        This game is blatantly one of whoredom. Snipers, mortars, armor, AA vehicles, LAVs/BMPs, Jeeps, Rockets.

        Find what you whore best at, and keep on keeping on.

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          #19
          So far the mortars are far worse than sniper, tanks or jets/helos ever thought about being !!

          Particularly on Siene, and next Bazaar...

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            #20
            Originally posted by Nauticas View Post
            Wiqd, don't try to argue with Phantom about sniping, I mean camping He's the king of it and probably one of the best players I've seen in BF. He doesn't know what it is like to have a 0.5 k/d ratio in a round.

            Sniping is part of the game and snipers are not nearly as annoying as they were in BC2. If the snipers are getting out of hand, just jump in a vehicle. Even the humvees and vans help to avoid snipers (not to mention they are quite effective in this game).
            not true.. ive seen his KD drop when better players are ingame

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              #21
              Originally posted by Cain View Post
              So far the mortars are far worse than sniper, tanks or jets/helos ever thought about being !!

              Particularly on Siene, and next Bazaar...
              I'm guilty of that

              But, the best counter for a mortar is to KEEP MOVING. If you're moving around, all a mortar launcher can do is guess where you'll be in about 3 seconds, and try to hit there... It's very difficult!

              Then again, lots of mortar folks just constantly bombard a choke point... not much you can do against that except time it and sprint through, and hope there isn't anybody waiting on the other side with guns.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Rand{CLR} View Post
                One of the things I'm realizing about this game is that it's going to be one of whoring. Everyone always complains about sniper whores, regardless of game. In the Battlefield games, people have always complained about the amor whores (cough *wussies* cough) and jet/helo whores.

                This game is blatantly one of whoredom. Snipers, mortars, armor, AA vehicles, LAVs/BMPs, Jeeps, Rockets.

                Find what you whore best at, and keep on keeping on.

                -Rand
                I'm a floor whore. I spend most of the game face down dead on the floor
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                  #23
                  I used to get pissed at my buddy for running around in a guilley suit with a shotgun in BC2 because I didn't think that's how snipers should be played. I had to remind myself that it's not just sniping, it's recon. Once I did that and began to think outside of the box, running around as recon with a weapon that's NOT a sniper rifle became a lot more viable and even fun. Of course when you unlock a really powerful rifle that can 1 shot from a long ways away (.50 cal in BC2, not sure if they have it in BF3), it's even more fun

                  I love recon / sniping, I was just agitated that I'd spawn and die because snipers were camping spawns or that I couldn't move from 1 flag to another because of snipers. Last night though I took on the "camping campers" role as a sniper and had a good time picking people off who thought they were concealed enough to camp

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                    #24
                    While I don't have any thing for or against snipers, those mobile spawn points are downright one of the most useful tools in the game.

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                      #25
                      Sniping in an objective based game is like shooting fish in a barrel. You always know people will be moving around trying to take objectives. Most snipers are not even remotely team players. Most are padding stats. Not all, but most.

                      It's fairly easy to shoot a choke point or keep an eye on a flag if you have a good location. Thats why I like the IR scope. Snipers cant hide much when you have those. But on the bigger maps it doesnt make much difference with an IR because they are so far away. But if they arent really good then I dont worry much about em at a distance.

                      Where I have problems with em is when they were able to shoot down the hallway on the Peak map. That was lame as hell. And I didnt like it. If they were back around their side of the map shooting, it didnt bother me as much. But still, in an objective based game you will always have targets.And easy kills.

                      I dont like the play style of a lot of people where Phantom disribed it as cheap kills. Which it is for the most part. No sportsmanship in that.

                      This game is about teamplay, but in the world we live in, selfishness abounds. And it shows up in the game. I rather win the game than have a positive K/D ratio. Of which I have negative often. But we win the game so I'm happy.

                      It is what it is. Everyone knows how I feel about snipers so I havent said too much in this game. There are better ways to counter them in this game than in BC2. But I also feel like snipin is just the lazy mans way to play the game. Along with being selfish if someone is just sitting on a hillside 400m out and not doing much. A lot of em should just go back to playin Cod.

                      ps: I think my sniper score is a little over 1000 pts.
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                        #26
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by SighKoPath View Post
                          I'm guilty of that

                          But, the best counter for a mortar is to KEEP MOVING. If you're moving around, all a mortar launcher can do is guess where you'll be in about 3 seconds, and try to hit there... It's very difficult!

                          Then again, lots of mortar folks just constantly bombard a choke point... not much you can do against that except time it and sprint through, and hope there isn't anybody waiting on the other side with guns.
                          The best counter for a mortar is another mortar. If an enemy support guy is hammering your team with a mortar, switch to support and take him out. The enemy mortar shows up on your mortar map.
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by {CLR} Cobalt View Post
                            Sniping in an objective based game is like shooting fish in a barrel. You always know people will be moving around trying to take objectives. Most snipers are not even remotely team players. Most are padding stats. Not all, but most.

                            It's fairly easy to shoot a choke point or keep an eye on a flag if you have a good location. Thats why I like the IR scope. Snipers cant hide much when you have those. But on the bigger maps it doesnt make much difference with an IR because they are so far away. But if they arent really good then I dont worry much about em at a distance.

                            Where I have problems with em is when they were able to shoot down the hallway on the Peak map. That was lame as hell. And I didnt like it. If they were back around their side of the map shooting, it didnt bother me as much. But still, in an objective based game you will always have targets.And easy kills.

                            I dont like the play style of a lot of people where Phantom disribed it as cheap kills. Which it is for the most part. No sportsmanship in that.

                            This game is about teamplay, but in the world we live in, selfishness abounds. And it shows up in the game. I rather win the game than have a positive K/D ratio. Of which I have negative often. But we win the game so I'm happy.

                            It is what it is. Everyone knows how I feel about snipers so I havent said too much in this game. There are better ways to counter them in this game than in BC2. But I also feel like snipin is just the lazy mans way to play the game. Along with being selfish if someone is just sitting on a hillside 400m out and not doing much. A lot of em should just go back to playin Cod.

                            ps: I think my sniper score is a little over 1000 pts.

                            what does playing recon has to do with COD???

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                              #29
                              I think he means that CoD is much more a solitary player's game where BF3's winning depends a whole lot more on team play.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Brian is Huh?!{CLR} View Post
                                not true.. ive seen his KD drop when better players are ingame
                                You just mad cuz I can still do well without using clutches like frag shells or IR scope. BAM!

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