Can we up the TK limit?

[Raven Paradox]

I've been kicked about 4 or 5 times for teamkilling. Never once have I purposely killed a teammate, nor have I seen anyone blatantly teamkilling except one person who knifed me while I was trying to flee and he clogged the doorway.

I was having one of my best rounds. It started a bit lame when someone decided to jump in front of my humvee. Another time a teammate decided to go suicide mode and run up to an enemy huddle, so I got 2 kills and 1 teamkill. Then an enemy jumped in between me and an ally. EVERY bullet hit the enemy, but apparently the bullets go through enemies and killed my teammate with a shot to the ankle even though he was fully healed.

I then get kicked from the server.

Is there anyway to improve the limit? Accidents happen, especially in a game where it doesn't clearly show who a teammate is and who isn't.

[Cain]

At present 3 teamkills per round gets you kicked, not banned, not temp banned, just kicked. Just reconnect, you can do so immediately.

3 TKs per round is a lot. People need to watch their fire and be careful with explosives.

I get so many complaints about people getting TK'd and TK'd for aircraft, if anything I'll lower it to 2 TKs per round.

And finally, my servers have always been 3 TKs per round gets you kicked.

[Schultzy]

I was actually thinking about this, the limit being 3.

For years, the max limit of players in a game has been 32. There's only 16 people you need to worry about. Now that amount has doubled, and it doesn't seem to me that the map size has increased enough to support this. The worst part of the TK limit is all of the people who sprint through crossfire.

Granted... Now you've gotta be crazy careful about your fire. :P I thought further about it, and figured that 3 is a good limit because by that point it's usually upset the server anyways.

[Cain]

When a guy has already killed you twice deliberately for a jet/chopper you had waited about five minutes for each time, you are thinking 1 TK should get a guy kicked !!

Unfortunately a TK is a TK, so there is no good way to tell if it was deliberate, accidental or not your fault at all.

[Schultzy]

Unfortunately a TK is a TK, so there is no good way to tell if it was deliberate, accidental or not your fault at all.

And that is the problem with TK limits. Automated systems cannot discriminate.

[Raven Paradox]

When I get kicked, I often have troubles with my computer freezing for some reason. It happens everytime I get kicked for teamkilling.

As far as being careful, the problems I have is people run around the maps into fire all the time. I'll be using a bi-pod or be behind cover, start shooting, and a teammate walks in front of me. I'm often very careful of where I shoot and where I use explosives. It also seems in this game that it's a lot easier to kill a teammate than kill an enemy, which is a development fault imo. One bullet will kill a teammate, but about 8 shots won't kill an enemy.

Just curious, how many complaints do you get on often about TKing for aircraft? You should be able to spawn on any aircraft in the game. I find it a bit strange that people are getting Tk'd so often, unless they're already in the aircraft and get shot by a rocket or sniper.

[Rand{CLR}]

In this game, 3 TKs really isn't a lot. I now get kicked for TKs at least twice every time I play, and a few times 3+ times in a session. The main reason? EA made it too damn hard to tell friendlies from enemies in this game. That delay before the blue text pops up is absolutely killer for those like me who are relatively fast and inclined to shoot first and ask questions later. It's compounded when I'm tanking, because I may get two guys with one shot and then am on a very thin leash for the rest of the round.

-Rand

[Raven Paradox]

Rand, you summed it up nicely. Sometimes also if you get a vehicle at the start of a round like Tehran or whatever that France map is called and people run right in front of you. You aren't able to see them and "bam" tk. Also, sometimes when a nice person is repairing you, but you see about 3 RPGs coming at you, you accidentally run that person over, that's 2 Tks.

Also, yeah, sometimes there is so much debris that you just can't see that tiny little blue triangle above a teammates head that you accidentally shoot them.

[jaspurr]

Little triangles above players, never seen this hence I killed Cain

[Apache Warrior]

If I fire at someone, running around a corner at me, without waiting for the blue triangle I team kill. If I wait until I get it, it is an enemy and I am dead. I am either way.
Apache

[paceman]

If I fire at someone, running around a corner at me, without waiting for the blue triangle I team kill. If I wait until I get it, it is an enemy and I am dead. I am either way.
Apache

What he said!

[goldenfooler]

I actually like the TK rules. 3 or less please

[Bon3z]

I've only been kicked twice due to TK (and I've played a lot of games on Cains).

Although I'm not a big powerhouse out there

[harpy]

Maybe at some point the forgive / punish mod will be available for Bf3. This puts the tk count firmly in the hands of the person that was tk'd.

Personally, I've always enjoyed that mod.

[BadHabitz]

I've never been kicked for TK's. Three seems ok to me.