Tuesday - The patch

[goldenfooler]

I will get there one day if at least its my ashes.

[Apache Warrior]

Maybe Infinity Ward bought EA and is trying to force players to switch to COD?

My father spent 3 months there during Operation Deep Freeze in the 1960's. He saw temps below -50F. There were lots of Penguins when he was there. They had to thaw the tires, skids and even the prop blades before starting up and taking off.
Apache

[Cain]

DICE must really hate people actually playing their game.

they hate the admins paying money to run servers for their game!!!

[Cain]

and we crashed ............

[Nauticas]

Sometimes I wonder who the bigger dumb asses are: DICE or the people who keep buying their buggy games.

[ryanbatc]

Aren't patches supposed to make games better

[Qicmee]

Sometimes I wonder who the bigger dumb asses are: DICE or the people who keep buying their buggy games.

Don't forget EA's role. I know who to blame for the crippled squad/party joining/talking/text-chat disasters. DICE had already proven how to make players happy, but EA decided to use BF3 to develop & promote their "social" product.

[Skud]

Sometimes I wonder who the bigger dumb asses are: DICE or the people who keep buying their buggy games.

Other available option: role playing games. What's a guy to do? It's not that bad, except for those smoothbore pistols.

[Cain]

Sometimes I wonder who the bigger dumb asses are: DICE or the people who keep buying their buggy games.

How about the idiots who pay good money, and invest a ton of time to run their servers so they can sell their game!?!?

[Raven Paradox]

This sounds incredibly stupid. I hate to sound like a nerd, but years ago I played RuneScape, and had fun with it, but the game eventually got eaten alive by cheaters. The Cheaters started the chaos, and the creators of the game finished the job. EA/DICE are doing the same thing. Honest people don't want to be punished because about 1% of the people care so much about where they rank on leaderboards while 5% cheat and stat pad while 94% play the game the right way and at most care about where they rank on the leaderboard of the match.

We are the 94%, it's time to occupy Battlefield.

[Devilguns]

I like how they mention their concern about stat padding regarding the 4 person limit to start. Like these points really mean anything. It's not like there are any tangible prizes or money at stake.

[Apache Warrior]

I like how they mention their concern about stat padding regarding the 4 person limit to start. Like these points really mean anything. It's not like there are any tangible prizes or money at stake.

You mean people are selling their perks on eBay for millions of dollars?
Apache

[NateTheBrewer]

• Increased the damage of the 44 Magnum slightly.
• Increased the range and minimum damage of the .357 Round from the MP412 Rex.
• Increased the range of all .45cal and 9mm weapons.
• Slightly increased the range of the P90 and MP7 and PDW-R.
• Slightly increased the range of the 5.56mm PDW-R and decreased the minimum damage at long range.
• Slightly increased the minimum range of the Mk11, SVD, and M39 EMR 7.62mm rifles.
• Decreased the maximum damage and maximum range of the G3 and SCAR-H 7.62mm weapons.

OK, I just finally unlocked the G3 this weekend, and for engineering only use the SCAR... I always prefer to use the more powerful, higher recoil, lower round-in-the-magazine count guns in BF games because I like aimed fire at range.

If you looked at the weapon damage ratings previously, every single assault rifle starts at 25 dmg at point blank, and drops to 19 dmg at its maximum range. The G3 is the only weapon that is actually different, starting at 34 dmg and dropping to 28 dmg at maximum range. The G3 is the only assault rifle that is actually different from any of the other assault rifles - and it is balanced by higher recoil, slower rate of fire, and a 20 round magazine.

The variety gets SLIGHTLY better with the engineer's carbines. Every one of these starts at 25 and drops to a dmg value between 16-19 at maximum range. Again, the SCAR is the only assault rifle that has a different value, starting at 34 dmg and dropping to 22 dmg at maximum range. Again, it is balanced by recoil, rate of fire, and magazine capacity.

They are doing what they have done in other battlefield games - they start with an actually diverse weapon set, and because of bitching about balance (when in actuality there are tradeoffs for each), they make every gun in a given class act the same... The only physical difference now will be rate of fire and recoil. Otherwise, you pick the model and 'sound' of the gun you like.

Oh, and they didn't do anything with the recoil... I haven't jumped in game to try them yet by I hope they are at least still reasonably more powerful, or they have made the uniquely different guns for each class a useless aesthetic.

ALSO: How the heck do you 'increase the minimum range' of the sniper rifles they listed. Do the bullets not do anything until a few meters out from the barrel?

[Devilguns]

You mean people are selling their perks on eBay for millions of dollars?
Apache

Hey they used to do it with WOW lol.

[Pumpkin_Jack]

Didnt see anyone else post 'em so here is the full patch notes, Cain maybe throw these on the first page of this thread....

---- Client-Side Changes:

-- Visuals, Stability and Performance Fixes:

• General performance and loading time improvements
• “Black Screen” fix for an issue occurring on some PC Configurations
• Stereo and Rendering Support for Nvidia and AMD Graphics Cards
• Adjusted the “stuttering” encountered on some PC configurations.
• Fixed several Crashes when joining MP and Co-Op sessions
• Fixed multiple problems when using multiple monitors (Eyefinity / Surround).
• Fixed visual corruption issues on certain Nvidia Cards
• Improved loading times for certain textures
• Added console command “GameTime.MaxVariableFps” to limit max FPS

-- Balance and Gameplay Adjustments (PC)

• Fixed a problem with high speed mouse movement
• Added back some missing Growlers on Kharg Island Conquest Large
• Added back EOR sound for SQDM and TDM
• You should no longer be able to damage a friendly vehicle when sitting in an open position
• Grenades now drop to ground if you get killed while attempting to throw it(note the affect this will have on Hardcore mode!)
• Spawn protection now should work in Conquest. You should no longer spawn on points too close to enemies
• You should no longer spawn too close to enemies in TDM and SQDM
• Combat areas on Kharg Rush tweaked in order to disallow defenders to access the carrier ship after 1st base is taken and being able to enter the AA gun
• Fixed a problem with revived players not suffering suppression
• Fixed a problem with the camera when being revived in COOP
• Added joystick deadzone setting
• Fixed sound for when climbing ladders
• Fixed an issue with some weapon sounds in first person
• Fixed a swim sound loop error
• Increased the damage of Helicopter Miniguns, AA guns, and Jet Cannons against infantry
• Increased the damage of Helicopter Miniguns against jeeps.
• Reduced the physics impact of AA guns and Jet Cannons, players under attack from these weapons should no longer lose control.
• Increased the damage of the 44 Magnum slightly.
• Increased the range and minimum damage of the .357 Round from the MP412 Rex.
• Increased the range of all .45cal and 9mm weapons.
• Slightly increased the range of the P90 and MP7 and PDW-R.
• Slightly increased the range of the 5.56mm PDW-R and decreased the minimum damage at long range.
• Slightly increased the minimum range of the Mk11, SVD, and M39 EMR 7.62mm rifles.
• Decreased the maximum damage and maximum range of the G3 and SCAR-H 7.62mm weapons.
• Reduced the damage from FIM-92 and SA-18 IGLA missiles against aircraft.
• Increased the damage and range of the 40mm BUCK rounds.
• Reduced the damage .50cal weapons do against Helicopters.
• Updated T90 canister shell tweaks to match Abrams canister shells
UI Changes (PC)
• Added round duration and ticket summary at EOR
• Advanced squad polish – should be more intuitive
• Significant changes to the Join Squad functionality (see below)
• Fixed a problem regarding keybindings while playing
• You should now get a better error message when being disconnected via Battlelog

---- Server Update Highlights

• EOD Bot exploit fix
• Several crash fixes
• Anti-stat padding measures taken, disallowing ranked servers to run obscure settings
• Improved team kill kick configuration
• Support for unranked servers. Unranked servers do not report players' scores to Battlelog, but server administrators can freely control all settings


-- Share your profile and stats with new Battlelog functionality

• Ability to share your Profile and Stats pages to Facebook, Google+, and Twitter
• User Profile and Stats pages on Battlelog can now be accessed without being signed in to Battlelog if you know a user's URL
• Single sign on from Battlelog to Origin. If you're not logged in to Origin and join a game server, Battlelog will automatically sign you in to Origin in the background and join the game server


-- Quick notes on Squad changes in the Nov 22 update

• Removed FIND ME A SQUAD option
• Allow players to join empty Squads alone, thus having 1/4 squad members
• Change order of options to LEAVE SQUAD, INV A FRIEND, SWITCH TEAM
• Disable Privacy flag when 1 man squad
• Reset Privacy flag from Private to Public when squad drops to 1 player
• All occupied Squads will now show up colored blue on the Squad Selection screen
• Players who choose not to join squads will also show up as Blue in the "Not in a Squad” line
• Squads that are currently empty will display as white -- if you wish to join an empty Squad, you can choose the first one marked with white text