Cain you gotta do something

[baconoclock]

If this is something that cant be fixed why keep posting about it?

I play at a no sniper german server when i want some relief from the snipe fest.

It can be fixed with addons and a heavy handed admin presence, but thats not what the big man wants here. It wouldn't be Cain's then

[FieryDragon]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah! I died. Do something about it.

How about use other set ups in your kit to help you avoid the pesky people. Duke mentioned smoke. Yes, that means you have to sacrifice something in your "PWN" kit...oh wait a second, you're dying so your "I'm not PWN-ing just dying a lot more" kit. Learn other play styles. Don't like it, simply don't play then or go somewhere else.

There's no way to sugar coat this. Crap happens so just deal with it or go home. Leave the crying to yourself.

[Reconsnipe1]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah! I died. Do something about it.

How about use other set ups in your kit to help you avoid the pesky people. Duke mentioned smoke. Yes, that means you have to sacrifice something in your "PWN" kit...oh wait a second, you're dying so your "I'm not PWN-ing just dying a lot more" kit. Learn other play styles. Don't like it, simply don't play then or go somewhere else.

There's no way to sugar coat this. Crap happens so just deal with it or go home. Leave the crying to yourself.

Well put

[Furryappleseed]

Flank. Unless you are on Isla, then hope your squad is decent.

[Dead_And_Gone]

A "No Snipers" server that I visited Does have a very active admin presense.
Warnings pop up constantly that you can't:

Use ANY sniper rifles
No RPG/CG infantry killing
No spawn raping
No sabbot shotguns
Don't remember if they banned exploits as well.

This requires a VERY active admin, heavy handed style.
CLR servers are all about using admin powers as the last resort.
(Light touch)

Yes, snipers and exploits can be annoying, but if they are the attacking team, and loaded with snipers, they lose 9/10 times. If they are on defense, a good squad or 2 can just steam roll right through them. If you don't have a good squad or 2, then it is pretty much stalemate, true. You take the good with the not so good.

[bobytt]

but if they are the attacking team, and loaded with snipers, they lose 9/10 times.

Not if they have at least one sniper going to mcoms with C4....

[p0002q]

Your playing a game that has a choice of characters and unfortunately @ times....

The choice is massive snipers.

But if you can copter in behind them... Prepare to stab a whole row of 12x zoomed in clueless snipers....

Smoke and Vehicles...

and run around like a maniac... run foward, back side. duck jump w\e it takes. i do that all the time... It amazes me how many people charge into a battle in a completely linear manner. ez pick'n.

[lady-MGS]

I can't stand snipers like the majority but as you said Sir-

i shouldnt be forced to play a gamemode i dont like because of snipers

- Why should those that enjoy playing sniper be forced to play a game mode they don't like? Everyone bought the game and everyone has their own opinions on how things should be ran.

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

im not saying i dont like snipers....if the snipers help like point there sniper at the objective then fine. If the mortar a key spot and take out cover/vads/force the enemy to bottleneck, ill run over and give them a beer. If snipers are using the helis (including the hind) for there own personal gain, i will keeeel them. If they exploit that cliff on that one map I keeel them. So im really only complaining about the ones dont do anything, or choose a sniper kit after there are already 8 snipers on our team.

As to them playing an obj. that snipers dont like, why wouldnt they play teamdeathmatch mode if thats all they are doing in rush mode?, thats like me playing team death match and c4ing every single building in there spawn trying to get objective points

[EICAS{CLR}]

Sir Psyhco Sexy

I play snipers alot, but also the other kits. I have learned that snipers if two or more are working together, they can be force mulitpliers for both offense and defense. When I play sniper, I try to go hi or hi and in shadows so that on:

Offense:
work counter sniper
work counter CG and RPG
Mortar Strike MCOMS and area's around them to clear out the Opfor before our guys get there
Strike at tanks and apc's which sit there to long
Take out the AA guns on some maps
and spot enemies if possible to help the attacking force
Clear out the underbrush and defensive points on some maps to help movement and open out firing lanes with Mortar strikes
Take out the stay behinds (mostly snipers) when the next stage of the map comes out
and a host of other tactical options
scan and harass the snipers in the towers and light houses if I can't kill them (also spot them for others if I can)

Defense
toss the movement sensors out around the mcoms once the Opfor gets close to help with spotting
Again Counter sniper
Spot enemies that try to sneak the map edges
Mortar strike the pathways, trails and roadways where there is intervening brush, also use it to clear out areas where I see OPFOR is spawning from behind or just in front of our lines to kill the hidden squad member
cover the MCOMS from behind or the side for the "occasional leaker" of our forward lines if we are in a good defense

That is what I try to do.Am I successful, sometimes. But if there are to many snipers on my side, I try to pick another kit. But I also get tired of the sniper mob, but as others have said, I've learned to deal with it, and try to move from point to point where snipers can't cover or when my exposure time to them is limited. The game isn't perfect, but as some of the people here on the forum have my dog tags from when I got fixated on a target as a sniper, there are ways around the problem. If snipers were limited to just a few per side, then I think those of us who like to use them would be turned away, like the "helicopter pilots" from BF2 and BF2142 who used to TK and just hang around the spawn point(s) waiting for them to spawn ( taking people out of the mix)..

Just my two cents from a BFBC2 new guy

[mapes]

The problem is not with snipers per se. It's with so many folks not working with the team. In a server thats supposed to be about team work it's kinda disappointing.

[Rogue7]

I say lay down some smoke, that annoys the heck out of them.
__________________

Thats what I used to do in COD4...worked like a charm. Smoke em and then work around them, knife em in the back.

[Dead...Again]

Sir Psyhco Sexy

I play snipers alot, but also the other kits. I have learned that snipers if two or more are working together, they can be force mulitpliers for both offense and defense. When I play sniper, I try to go hi or hi and in shadows so that on:

Offense:
work counter sniper
work counter CG and RPG
Mortar Strike MCOMS and area's around them to clear out the Opfor before our guys get there
Strike at tanks and apc's which sit there to long
Take out the AA guns on some maps
and spot enemies if possible to help the attacking force
Clear out the underbrush and defensive points on some maps to help movement and open out firing lanes with Mortar strikes
Take out the stay behinds (mostly snipers) when the next stage of the map comes out
and a host of other tactical options
scan and harass the snipers in the towers and light houses if I can't kill them (also spot them for others if I can)

Defense
toss the movement sensors out around the mcoms once the Opfor gets close to help with spotting
Again Counter sniper
Spot enemies that try to sneak the map edges
Mortar strike the pathways, trails and roadways where there is intervening brush, also use it to clear out areas where I see OPFOR is spawning from behind or just in front of our lines to kill the hidden squad member
cover the MCOMS from behind or the side for the "occasional leaker" of our forward lines if we are in a good defense

That is what I try to do.Am I successful, sometimes. But if there are to many snipers on my side, I try to pick another kit. But I also get tired of the sniper mob, but as others have said, I've learned to deal with it, and try to move from point to point where snipers can't cover or when my exposure time to them is limited. The game isn't perfect, but as some of the people here on the forum have my dog tags from when I got fixated on a target as a sniper, there are ways around the problem. If snipers were limited to just a few per side, then I think those of us who like to use them would be turned away, like the "helicopter pilots" from BF2 and BF2142 who used to TK and just hang around the spawn point(s) waiting for them to spawn ( taking people out of the mix)..

Just my two cents from a BFBC2 new guy

+1 this is the way sniper is supposed to be played. If only most snipers tried to do this instead of just trying to get kills.