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[Donziboy2]

I enjoyed it more the way it is now compared to HC.
Its nice when you play medic to actually be able to see ppl who need revived other then having to bring up the map.

[Cain]

You guys talked about having fun. Not sure if I agree that this is fun or not. I didnt really enjoy the gameplay last night. But I did enjoy being with friends. But I dont know why it has to be one or the other, and not both. I'm still deciding what I want to do .

Cobalt, you never seem to enjoy the gameplay here.

You hate the maps, you hate the snipers, etc., etc. You still think people who kill you are often cheating. You still want RUSH or at worst mixed mode.

I am getting sick of spending so much of my time trying to make the game more enjoyable for folks, working within the limitations I have for available modes, maps, rankings ROE, etc., then listening to constant whining and bitching.

Bear in mind I rarely play these games but yet spend HOURS each day behind the scenes to keep them running smoothly. I have been working on server and Procon and TS3 for almost 7 hours today.

The rest of us enjoy the fun and fellowship here, regardless of the game, map, mode or whatever. We tend to look for the positives in whatever we are playing - and are not constantly bitching about those elements we do not like.

You might want to take a clue from our youngest CLR at age 9 who has fun whatever we play, and is constantly looking for the positives and fun in what we are playing.

If you don't have fun playing with us, then please go play on any of the other thousands of servers out there that are more fun than our server.

[Nilesjones]

Here's the only problem and I mean only problem I have with the Vanilla part of it. It's that pesky crosshair. Is there anyway to get it off for myself without anyone else having the penalty?

It's not cheap of anyone else using it, I just can't stand using it anymore. Hell to be honest, I just wanted 3D spotting lol

But I do like the fact that it hinders snipers alot more than it was before. Now the snipers actually have to do something in order to get a kill rofl

Nice change Cain

[Cain]

I enjoyed it more the way it is now compared to HC.
Its nice when you play medic to actually be able to see ppl who need revived other then having to bring up the map.

Thus nobody in HC plays medic.

Thank you for the feedback. It is features like that one, that made BF2 the game it was and encouraged teamplay. HC mode strips out many of the elements of gameplay.

Having researched HC mode extensively over the last few days it turns out there is no difference in the damage the weapons do, you simply start with 40-50% health in HC mode. And HC removes many elements of the BF2 gameplay that we all enjoyed, including spotting enemies.

[Duke{CLR}]

I'm liking it, my only complaint is that my red dot on my MG36 is gone.

[Dead_And_Gone]

I have no issues, and I don't mind playing medic Anywhere.

Last 2-3 days just working 2 jobs and no time to play.
Sunday only 1 job, so get to play late afternoon.

Regular i die alot, HC i die alot. If you follow SKUD or Apache, you die alot.. lol And I rag on both of them about that..

Having said that, unless my teammates are doing weird stuff, like not tryng for caps, I'm going to stick close to one or all of them.

[TheSilentAssassin]

Well all I have to say is that I love it. I Especially enjoyed playing with Cain the other day. Good Times lads

[Nilesjones]

Well you've got it perfect Cain! Nice job on making the vehicles 1st person only. It's really an advantage for someone to use the 3rd person view to find out if someone is sneaking up on them with some C4 lol

And thank you loads for taking that pesky crosshair out of the equation. So much better now. More of a challenge of course, but that thing just gave me something else to get distracted lol

[LOCO]

CYA

[{CLR} Cobalt]

If you don't have fun playing with us, then please go play on any of the other thousands of servers out there that are more fun than our server.

Very well.

[NateTheBrewer]

Thus nobody in HC plays medic.

Thank you for the feedback. It is features like that one, that made BF2 the game it was and encouraged teamplay. HC mode strips out many of the elements of gameplay.

Having researched HC mode extensively over the last few days it turns out there is no difference in the damage the weapons do, you simply start with 40-50% health in HC mode. And HC removes many elements of the BF2 gameplay that we all enjoyed, including spotting enemies.

I understand this... I know I talked to you in game about it and in general when I say 'weapons do more damage in hardcore' it is in relation to the player's health... I get the fact that it is the player's health that is lower, not that the weapons do more damage. I have been using this website as reference since it was posted:

Bad Company 2 | DenKirson on Xanga

You say vanilla is like BF2 and how BF3 will be played... I certainly hope not. I played BF2 from beta until BFBC2 came out on the PC, and loved it. But the one problem I had with that game was the weapon/health/damage model. You should not have to hit another player 5 times with a .223 round to drop them, or 2 times in the face. BFBC2 (I never played the first as I was PC only), finally brought BF closer to more realistic weapons physics for me.

Vanilla mode in BFBC2 is a bit better than other BF games, and hardcore finally brings it to where it should be. All the players I used to play competitively with in BF2 hate hardcore mode for exactly that reason... the fact that you have to think about crossing the street or running around in the open because you could be dropped VERY quickly. This is not about shooting people in the foot, its about at least some realism in the battlefield environment. Earlier today, I had to shoot someone 2 times in the head with an M14 with magnum ammo at point blank range. The AUG actually took 3 rounds (with magnum ammo as well). Even the shotgun with slugs and magnum ammo took 2-3 shots depending on the range. I am aiming for the head, as you want us to, and its ridiculous what it takes to kill people.

On the flip side, I scored better than I ever have on your server. This is because the weapons/damage/health system makes you demi-godlike. You can sit there, exposed, killing people, not worrying about people shooting at you, because you are getting hit 4,5,6,7 times and not dying. Its laughable. Its like watching someone in a bad shoot-em-up film take out 25 guys while he gets shot several times, and finally bleeds out at the end.

I know I am an outsider, but this place has been a haven for me... Just voicing my opinion... You are the server owner(s) and can do absolutely whatever you want. Just want to keep throwing the devil's advocate argument out there.

[SIR Rossy]

I'm liking it, my only complaint is that my red dot on my MG36 is gone.

That is a bug and EA arent going to fix it..

[SIR Rossy]

Its back to hardcore i believe with a new sniper plugin

[Schultzy]

Still slays if you select it when you spawn and the limit has been reached.

C'est la vie.

I was still spankin when I was any kit, per usual. Just wish I'd gotten some more SVU kills in this eve. :P 4 more stars to go before I can move onto the next rifle. (GOL? I think)

Was alittle confused at how fast targets were dropping before someone confirmed it was back to HC for me. I did notice that the snipers were not as prominent. I'd like to say I noticed more that was bad, but I was too busy mopping the floor to take notice of much.

[Cain]

Great feedback npggefvert, and most appreciated.

In combination with our server move back to Dallas, I switched us back to HC, and I also am trying a new plugin to limit recons to 3 per team - and hopefully this plugin has a better implementation, I thin it allows the first 3 recons to be fine, but the fourth guy gets killed.

I"m closing this thread, and thanks for the feedback !!