Figure i'll be the first to bring this subject up, prolly not the first time ever, but i'm sure is fairly new.
WHAT IS THE JOB OF THE COMMANDER?
First some facts:
1. Commanders can see more of the battle then anyone, they have sat track which allows them to spot enemys.
2. Commanders can drop supplys to friendlys
3. Commanders can use UAV.
4. Commanders can EMP (useless in most cases)
5. Commander can move titan (NOT)
6. Commander can issue orders to squad commanders (orders may or may not be followed)
7. Commanders score is based on the average of his team. He gets no points for killing,taking silos,repairing, healing, or any other action that would normally give a normal soldier points.
8. Commanders do still recieve credit towards pins,medals,leader board, badges, for all actions that would merit one of these awards.
9. Commander gets a 2x bonus when his team wins.
I prolly missing a couple other things, but these are the nuts and butter.
So I ask you what is the commanders job?
My opinion: I think the commanders job is to win any way he can minus cheating/glitching. The 2x bonus is a strong indicator that winning is the commanders objective. Along with the fact that I play games to have fun, but I have no fun losing all the time. So winning plays a factor in my "FUN". I don't expect to win every match, but a nice 2:1 ratio give or take is great. So my opinion is that winning is the commanders job.
I personally think a commander is that 32nd man on the battle field, in whatever shape/way/form that might be, gunship,tanker,jeep, transport, etc etc. I think the commander should do what he's best at in order to possibly tip the scales in the favor of his/her team. Does this negate his responsibilites to use UAV,EMP.Supplies,Sat track, i'd say that all depends on the situation at hand and the negative impact its gonna have on the commanders ability to continue tipping the scales. Basically the commander is the commander what he does is his own business, if he decides to support someone (uav,supplies,etc) then thats his choice, but if he choses to ignore thats also within his choice. I've seen commanders support the troops to the best of his ability ( which was way high) and still lose. Maybe if he had been in a tank and supporting less the scales would be tipped. We also must consider the fact 9/10 people don't listen to their squad leaders let alone the commander. And most squads don't give orders, or request anything from the commander. I understand some squads do, but the majority don't.
Putting Major Mass. on the spot in this epic post.
Major Mass is commander, he jumps in a tank gets 40-50 kills, never drops a emp,uav,supply drop (cept for himself), and never issues an order. His team wins the match. Is this acceptable?
Major Mass next round doesn't do anything he sits on the titan, gives orders, supplys, uav,emp, etc to everyone, along with accepting squad leaders orders for help. No one listens to him, because its a public server and they don't care about winning they just want points. Major Mass loses. Is this how commander is suppose to be?
Now I am commanding and get in a gunship and I get 40-50 kills, I drop minimal supplies,uav,emp when requested or within a minute or two of the request, I keep enemy from getting to back silos cause i have sat track and can spot the transports. When enemy titan sheilds go down I ask all SL's to please attack the enemy titan, if our titan needs it I call SL's back to defend. Other then that I leave people to do as they want, after all they paid to buy the game just as I did. What gives the commander the right to order people, commander isn't voted on, commander can be a private, commander could be a moron, but what right does he have to be "ordering" people around. SL's in my book can order people around because they have the option of kicking people from squads, and its by choice that that person is in the SL's squad therefore he understands that its either follow orders or leave. Some SL's do this some don't but once again that falls into the domain of freedom of choice.
So for those who made it this far without hitting your back button and going on to the next new topic, what is the commanders job? What is he allowed and not allowed to do, and lastly what rules on the server prevent him from doing things he not suppose to do other then cheating/glitching/asshating. And remember if its not on the start up screen for cains server 90% of the people will have no idea what the rules are regarding commander, unless its in there with no glitching,cheating,asshating, and titan movement denied.
I think the commanders job/duty/obligation is toWIN
If there is some rule, that CLR has laid down regarding this by all means let me know, but if there isn't i'd like for CLR members to stop harassing me and other players about the correct way to command, that folks ain't allowed to do this or that while commanding. My team the other night with me commanding won something like 35+ wins, with me dropping MAYBE 3-4 dozen supplies,uavs,and emps during all these matchs. On top of that I never once ordered squads to any silos, all my orders were done verbally to the SL's they chose to ignore or follow my orders, regardless though 35+ wins I think this goes to show that jus cause you don't follow the popular belief of what a commanders job is, that doesn't mean with a little abstract thinking that you can't still win.
Anyways this is by no means a rant, and its not just CLR that point commanders out who don't follow the popular belief that commanders command from the titan, but CLR are basically the only people that have any weight sway with what I do in the game, its an awesome server, its got great people, I love playing here, but at the same time if I working on a badge, I don't need folks I respect telling me I can't do something my way, but must do it their way.Unless of course i'm breaking the rules then yeah I need to respect the wishs of that person.
Anyways love yas all, great people, great server, great fun. Peace
Tanari
WHAT IS THE JOB OF THE COMMANDER?
First some facts:
1. Commanders can see more of the battle then anyone, they have sat track which allows them to spot enemys.
2. Commanders can drop supplys to friendlys
3. Commanders can use UAV.
4. Commanders can EMP (useless in most cases)
5. Commander can move titan (NOT)
6. Commander can issue orders to squad commanders (orders may or may not be followed)
7. Commanders score is based on the average of his team. He gets no points for killing,taking silos,repairing, healing, or any other action that would normally give a normal soldier points.
8. Commanders do still recieve credit towards pins,medals,leader board, badges, for all actions that would merit one of these awards.
9. Commander gets a 2x bonus when his team wins.
I prolly missing a couple other things, but these are the nuts and butter.
So I ask you what is the commanders job?
My opinion: I think the commanders job is to win any way he can minus cheating/glitching. The 2x bonus is a strong indicator that winning is the commanders objective. Along with the fact that I play games to have fun, but I have no fun losing all the time. So winning plays a factor in my "FUN". I don't expect to win every match, but a nice 2:1 ratio give or take is great. So my opinion is that winning is the commanders job.
I personally think a commander is that 32nd man on the battle field, in whatever shape/way/form that might be, gunship,tanker,jeep, transport, etc etc. I think the commander should do what he's best at in order to possibly tip the scales in the favor of his/her team. Does this negate his responsibilites to use UAV,EMP.Supplies,Sat track, i'd say that all depends on the situation at hand and the negative impact its gonna have on the commanders ability to continue tipping the scales. Basically the commander is the commander what he does is his own business, if he decides to support someone (uav,supplies,etc) then thats his choice, but if he choses to ignore thats also within his choice. I've seen commanders support the troops to the best of his ability ( which was way high) and still lose. Maybe if he had been in a tank and supporting less the scales would be tipped. We also must consider the fact 9/10 people don't listen to their squad leaders let alone the commander. And most squads don't give orders, or request anything from the commander. I understand some squads do, but the majority don't.
Putting Major Mass. on the spot in this epic post.
Major Mass is commander, he jumps in a tank gets 40-50 kills, never drops a emp,uav,supply drop (cept for himself), and never issues an order. His team wins the match. Is this acceptable?
Major Mass next round doesn't do anything he sits on the titan, gives orders, supplys, uav,emp, etc to everyone, along with accepting squad leaders orders for help. No one listens to him, because its a public server and they don't care about winning they just want points. Major Mass loses. Is this how commander is suppose to be?
Now I am commanding and get in a gunship and I get 40-50 kills, I drop minimal supplies,uav,emp when requested or within a minute or two of the request, I keep enemy from getting to back silos cause i have sat track and can spot the transports. When enemy titan sheilds go down I ask all SL's to please attack the enemy titan, if our titan needs it I call SL's back to defend. Other then that I leave people to do as they want, after all they paid to buy the game just as I did. What gives the commander the right to order people, commander isn't voted on, commander can be a private, commander could be a moron, but what right does he have to be "ordering" people around. SL's in my book can order people around because they have the option of kicking people from squads, and its by choice that that person is in the SL's squad therefore he understands that its either follow orders or leave. Some SL's do this some don't but once again that falls into the domain of freedom of choice.
So for those who made it this far without hitting your back button and going on to the next new topic, what is the commanders job? What is he allowed and not allowed to do, and lastly what rules on the server prevent him from doing things he not suppose to do other then cheating/glitching/asshating. And remember if its not on the start up screen for cains server 90% of the people will have no idea what the rules are regarding commander, unless its in there with no glitching,cheating,asshating, and titan movement denied.
I think the commanders job/duty/obligation is toWIN
If there is some rule, that CLR has laid down regarding this by all means let me know, but if there isn't i'd like for CLR members to stop harassing me and other players about the correct way to command, that folks ain't allowed to do this or that while commanding. My team the other night with me commanding won something like 35+ wins, with me dropping MAYBE 3-4 dozen supplies,uavs,and emps during all these matchs. On top of that I never once ordered squads to any silos, all my orders were done verbally to the SL's they chose to ignore or follow my orders, regardless though 35+ wins I think this goes to show that jus cause you don't follow the popular belief of what a commanders job is, that doesn't mean with a little abstract thinking that you can't still win.
Anyways this is by no means a rant, and its not just CLR that point commanders out who don't follow the popular belief that commanders command from the titan, but CLR are basically the only people that have any weight sway with what I do in the game, its an awesome server, its got great people, I love playing here, but at the same time if I working on a badge, I don't need folks I respect telling me I can't do something my way, but must do it their way.Unless of course i'm breaking the rules then yeah I need to respect the wishs of that person.
Anyways love yas all, great people, great server, great fun. Peace
Tanari
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