May not be directly swearing but I've seen it being used on the CoD4 server a lot lately with negative connotations. Which I believe to be against the rules. Can I get some clarification on the issue.......should I be asking people to watch their language please for using gay negatively and then reporting them if they continue to do so?
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That's a tricky one. I've been known to say "that's gay" in my normal passing, but not often, and definitely not in the Lair. I wouldn't want to offend anyone. I wouldn't think too much about someone just saying, "that was gay" if they don't say it every 2 seconds, but if they direct it at someone, like, "you're gay for using martyrdom" or something, then maybe that's a little worse. I don't think it's quite as bad as saying "F--- you" or anything... I'm interested to hear the official ruling on this.Comment
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you know,... I hate that the word GAY has been basically removed from our vocabulary.
It MEANS happy, joyous, fancyfree,....
Only in the last 20 years or so have we condemned the word GAY to mean homosexual.
The word is not bad in and of itself. The F bomb on the other hand IS vulgar, improper language. Racial slurs were invented and intended to be just that.
Gay was not invented to mean homosexual.
Good grief with the political correctness,
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I know it's original meaning, but the way people have been using it that I'm seeing lately is definitely being used in a negative way with the meaning of homosexuality. Like...Martyrdom is really gay, stop using it. Or....That grenade over the wall was really gay you know. Can't remember any exact specifics, just remember things like that that were sticking out and I wanted some clarification on the issue.[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/Igorod/troopdod.jpg[/img]
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Can one of you please tell us how "that's gay" is a positive connotation?
In 90% of the ways I see it being used, it's derogatory.
So I'm not being perceived as jerky, all I mean to say is that the negative vibe on the word is often justified if you focus on the context that the word is used in.
It's not that I am saying GAY= Homosexual = BAD;
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GAY = I'm a unsophisticated asshat who must cast insult in order to elevate myself.
If you are saying "I'm having an awesome day-it's a real gay day", I'm sure it's a good use of the word- though you may get some uneducated asshats snickering at you.
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Where do we draw the line in interpretations of common words being used in a negative sense? I don't like people using the word the way they are using it, but I don't see it as something that would be bannable or even kickable.
I would tell the people that its not cool to use a word like that, but I don't think it's an offense that should be reported.
As an admin, this is not something I have been warning people about nor have I kicked anyone for using the word.
But as always, Cain has the last word on issues like this. If he deems that its an inapropriate word, then we'll have to start enforcing that rule.[this is where my funky sig would go. But I don't have one.
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What is the difference in someone saying "that was gay" and "that was lame" or "that was BS?" Should someone be reprimanded for saying "Martyrdom is really lame?"[url=http://www.enjin.com/bf3-signature-generator][img]http://sigs.enjin.com/sig-bf3/1fad512dc784c11c.png[/img][/url]Comment
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I say gay all the time.... this is gay or that is gay... I can't say I have ever typed it ingame. But I certainly would not call someone gay. I don't support gay marriage, I view that it should be outlawed... I still wouldn't pick on somebody for it.
But I reserve the right to call an item etc. gay.Comment
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No, and I haven't said anything, nor will I. I was curious about it. It doesn't honestly bother me all that much as I know plenty of people who do it. Heck, I've been known to blurt it out myself by accident on occasion. I was curious as to the official stance as I wasn't sure if it was considered some kind of slur or something that Cain was enforcing that people don't use.
The difference is that lame or BS are commentary adjectives. Gay can be taken as a derogatory reference to someone who is homosexual and could be seen as harassment in certain situations, by either a homosexual or straight individual.[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v337/Igorod/troopdod.jpg[/img]
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I don't understand how this could be twisted into something it really isnt. First off, no, it is not a derrogatory remark toward someone who is homosexual. Have you ever heard a person who is homosexual say "I'm Gay"? If I said "why of course you're gay" and you really are gay, then I don't see that as offensive. If I said you were a fag, then that'd be a different approach and possibly offensive.
Calling someone gay who is not gay is derrogatory and offensive to a straight person. If you go around calling everyone gay, eventually the chances are someone is going to get pissed off... usually that pissed off person isn't gay..(homophobic).. , whereas a gay person would possibly say something like "You're right and proud of it".
It is generally the tasteless slang forms of the word which really offend a gay person. Usually these words are from someone immature who is trying to verbally attack someone. The word gay is not one of them I'm told.
One of my really good friends (Female) and I had a long conversation about this one time, over a few drinks, and this is what I took from it. She was, in fact, gay. Gay males may have a differing outlook...I wouldn't know.. only what the Gay Female friend of mine told me...She doesn't take the word "gay" as offensive.
We later left and.....you know the rest.
Some may say.. well if you did that then she isn't gay, but Bisexual... Well.. you'd have to ask her that......
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i have been known to say that(not on the lair).i just use it like the word sucks.that sucks or thats gay.i dont think anything of itComment
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The word today is being used in a way that is deragatory towards gay people as they have used the word gay, which means homosexual, and are using it in a context where it means something is stupid, lame, pointless, etc.
Its not the word itself, but how we, as a society are now using it commonly.
I can compare it to using the word "retarded".
"OMG, did you see that? thats so retarded".
That is just as deragatory towards mentally challenged people as gay is towards homosexual people. But as the usage of the word retarded has been around longer, we are accepting of it. But in 2008, with the debates and discussions going on about gay rights, people seem to think that using gay in the same context as retarded is, well, gay and retarded
Good discussion thread
Lets PLEASE not turn this into a gay rights or support of gay marriage issue.
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Twinky, you are mentally challenged. Do you wish you weren't?
First of all... even mentally challenged people regret being mentally challenged.. So I hear.. whereas gay people do not. Calling a mentally challenged person retarded SHOULD piss them off as they would, of course, rather be normal.... it might just take them a minute to get pissed off about it. From what I've been told, gay people don't mind being gay because it is not a deficiency from their perspective. .
See.. now you're mad.
j/k.
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the original meaning of "retarded" -
v. tr.
To cause to move or proceed slowly; delay or impede.
v. intr.
To be delayed.
used slangily for "mentally challenged" folk. so, in essence, calling someone a retard would be calling them slow, but it has taken on some evil, insensitive context with P.C. having come about.
Having thought about it, we could theorize that "gay" would mean lame because of it's "happiness" derived from the original meaning. Something that is way too happy and annoying would be lame, therefore "gay". However, the link between the common usage of "gay" and "homosexual" makes for an uncomfortable situation around P.C. people as well.
I call them P.C. people because I know there are some homosexual people who take offense and some who don't, and some heterosexual people who take offense, and some who don't.
I'd make more points with no point, but I'm tired, and I must sleep before work later today!
These are mostly to get your brains stirring. I like discussions like this, as long as they stay intellectual and don't degrade into poop.Comment
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