HC how about giving it a chance LOOSE rs timer

[Evilization]

well
thats just 1 suggestion really
its up to cain to decide, not you
im not saying all servers should be promod or something. But really, the TDM HC server is not crowded yet and the players there are the regulars. So, why not try something new? custom maps, zombie mod, etc.
and those things they take off in promod are basically the ones that give cheap kills and they also give a slight balancing to weapons, so why not?
the regular TDM server for freedom of weapon choices, the other promod server for the more competitive players who have their own definitions of a fair game (no tubes, no jugger, etc)

[Tuck]

But it's kinda nasty to call a style of play into question when talking about something that really isn't all that related.

For the record, there was nothing nasty or personal in my previous post. I'm sorry if anyone took it that way.

My entire point is that if you make the HC server more like the regular TDM server, it will BECOME the TDM server. And then we'll have two servers full of nade spam and LMG spam. If that's what Cain wants, then fine. But we're finally building a little something in the HC server and I'd hate to see it die.

So ask yourself, what is the whole goal of the regular TDM server? It's kill count. Nothing else really matters, it's just how many enemies you can kill. Run, run, run, shoot, shoot, shoot, die, die, die. Rinse and repeat.

But in the HC server, with fewer players, strategy plays a much greater role and the kill/death ratio is more important. Part of that strategy is staying alive so you don't have to sit out 8 seconds. When you're waiting to spawn, you're not helping your team.

Removing the spawn delay throws the balance in the favor of the rushers. It removes the incentive to stay alive, and makes the HC server more like the regular TDM server.

Just my two cents.

[Evilization]

i agree with tuck
the reason i play HC is NOT the reduced health NOR is it any of the HC features. i play because there are less players and the FF reflect.

[Fitty-Six K]

So ask yourself, what is the whole goal of the regular TDM server? It's kill count. Nothing else really matters, it's just how many enemies you can kill. Run, run, run, shoot, shoot, shoot, die, die, die. Rinse and repeat.

That's kinda the goal of the HC server too, seeing as it is also a TDM server. The goal is to have more kills than the other team, so kill count is the only thing that matters.

[OniEagle]

lolz at not use p90,why? Just dont use tube martyr or u get banned.And like i always say TDM isnt HC.Real HC is find&destroy with 1 entry/match.Try that 20 ppl max ppl will enjoy that im sure
TDM HC it's just TDM with no martyr and 3 flashy instead 3 nades lolz Not big different

[Drav!k]

well
thats just 1 suggestion really
its up to cain to decide, not you
im not saying all servers should be promod or something. But really, the TDM HC server is not crowded yet and the players there are the regulars. So, why not try something new? custom maps, zombie mod, etc.
and those things they take off in promod are basically the ones that give cheap kills and they also give a slight balancing to weapons, so why not?
the regular TDM server for freedom of weapon choices, the other promod server for the more competitive players who have their own definitions of a fair game (no tubes, no jugger, etc)

well, i still saying it's cod4.
the "promod" is only for who can not really play the game "today" and they think
who shoot for first will kill (because in promode is oneshot).
with this tard mod will be the CamperLand, a lot of people will leave (me too).
cod4 > cod2

[K PhaNTOM]

I don't think I wanna play in an unranked server. I got most of my challenges in the HC and I am sure many others want to since it is much easier to get them. PAM4 or AWE4 Mods that I have played are

1. Buggy
2. Need to download them (Yes only 5MB but still)
3. One shot kill, even with an Uzi or a Skorp
4. This is not a competitive match, if it was, I would be playing with my MP5 all the time instead of sniping or tubin'.
5. S&D is the most annoying gametype in CoD4. 10 vs 10 campers waiting for what they call the "strategy moment" where they plant claymores and C4 the targets. Completely not fun, completely team based (No, that is not good when you have your team running in front of you in HC then you die of reflect). And finally, I personally don't like it...

Well, the choice has always been Cain's and we are allowed to show our input on how to play. He has the final word and I am pretty sure he read all of the above and will decide for himself

Oh, final thought, I want the RS timer down, not up in case the point was lost in my post.

[Furryappleseed]

I think the timer is fine, though it could be a bit shorter. There needs to be at least some time so the person that killed "whoever" can reposition.

On the weapons topic, I don't have a problem with any weapon/perk combo. Sure some of them are cheap, but nothing is unfairly overpowering.

[Evilization]

to dravik
promod isnt 1 shot 1 kill
i regularly play in 1 snd promod server
damage-wise its the same, with SMG being an exception
it is slightly nerfed
maybe you got into a HC promod server?

anyway, i dont really wanna hijack the thread, i only mentioned promod because ppl talked about tubes on page 1. As for the timer, its fine as it is.

[Drav!k]

yes, HC promod server.
i was into an italian community, they added that and i left like half people.
but cain is the leader, he can do what he want.

[Gimmie2]

I'll be glad to check but I'm not sure there is a setting for that in TDM, and I think HC hardcodes a spawn timer...

I dont think that HC has a hard coded timer, ive seen several servers that have longer and shorter respawn times.... sometimes as long as 15 sec or as short as "Press F to respawn" as for the FF i think it would work better on shared, so that way people who run into a teamates nade (or walk into their LOF) die for their stupidity

[6Pounder]

I agree with Gimmie when he talks about FF.

Timer is ok like that for me, but 3 sec could be cool too.

[Exo]

I have to say, the timer doesn't bug me that much. It does get on my nerves a bit if I die a lot all at once, but I think it should be that way. It gives you time to think about what you might do differently the next time.

[Gimmie2]

cod2 with modern weaps

there are actually some mods that have reskinned and re-coded the cod4 guns to be cod2 guns (rifles and snipers only atm) imo one of the best mods out for any game i have ever played.

[K PhaNTOM]

there are actually some mods that have reskinned and re-coded the cod4 guns to be cod2 guns (rifles and snipers only atm) imo one of the best mods out for any game i have ever played.

Played it a while back, not that fun. Actually it is a bit stupid when you have such cool weapons and wanting those oldies.